Dr. Chris Dennis talks with Jenn Wells, EdD, UCLA’s chief of staff for alumni engagement, about the evolving chief-of-staff role in higher education, systems-focused equity work, and how to build buy-in for strategic change across institutions. Jenn shares practical advice for equity practitioners on transferable skills, avoiding burnout, and career pivots, and closes by describing her own outlets, executive networks, nonprofit board service, and watercolor, and urges listeners to stay connected to their communities.